They had to act fast and get their lost Dragon Balls! Goku one shorted Recoome and stomped Jeice and Burter with half the power. Vegeta flew into the ring as Burter, Jeice, Recoome and Guldo flew in and did their pose, noticeably without Captain Ginyu. Your ignoring the most important member! Again as I said above how do we know being a great ape increases vegetas speed? Captain Ginyu powers up to his maximum and asks Jeice about his power level, but to his horror, Jeice replies that it is only a mere 23,000. Meanwhile, Nail continue… I know Vegeta's strong too, but a five on one doesn't seem fair at all. @vegandiet: That wasn't really a strategy that was pretty much vegeta using all his power. Also in Dragonball Roshi states that Goku outclasses him in terms of power but not necessarily skill, he says this after Goku has defeated King Piccolo, someone Roshi had no chance against. Guldo time freezes, one of them cuts off his tail, and STOMP. He's at least multi-moon buster. In the Manga Vegeta says he will lose power and Goku notes he lost power the moment he made the power ball. Tactics don't mean crap in Dragonball Z when your opponents aren't close to your power. Most of the Z warriors can't just randomly buff themselves either unless they are Saiyan and plot calls for it. It's how it would effect the actual battle against Recoome, Burter & Jeice (remember Guildo is dead by the time Nail shows up) and how … The Ginyu Force has some resemblances and references to Super Sentai teams (and by extension, Power Rangers teams): five color-coded warriors, tendencies to pose during battle, role calls and supernatural powers. He was pl 18,000 against goku so great ape would be 180,000 the same power level goku was with kaioken 2x and ginyu admitted he would be destroyed. Not only that he must have been pretty stupid to forget that Goku's son was still in his development stages so he had a tail as well. But to insinuate that there are NEVER any tactics that work in Z is being willfully ignorant. It is not like Batman fighting Superman.Batman, no matter what tactic he uses, can't simply buff himself to higher levels than Superman, nor can he gain more strength, or the ability to fly. The blast in Gero's hand dissipated and, just as quickly as it had struck him, the object zipped backwards. Jesus Christ, a paraplegic would read that and gain the ability to walk solely for the purpose of walking away from this thread. team Ginyu should win all rounds. Otherwise, Dodoria and Zarbon could be a part of the force, as Frieza doesn't question their loyalty whatsoever. Ginyu calls out to Jeice for assistance, but Vegetacomes out of hiding to intercept and battle Jeice alone. 8 Vs Recoome Vegeta doesn’t get to enjoy his post-Zarbon power boost for long as Frieza calls in the Ginyu Force … So having Vegeta stall Buu, using the Kai's as a telepathic relay to co-ordinate movements from multiple parties light years apart is now not strategy, because the end Goal was to acquire a powerful enough energy to defeat Buu? Considering his tactical skills did him wonders against the androids, and cell. Some of the recent references to the Ginyu Force's stylisti… The Ginyu Force (ギニュー特戦隊, Ginyū Tokusentai, lit. vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) "You're up against the Ginyu Force!" The only one to escape his wrath was Captain Ginyu, who accidentally switched bodies with a frog. Lets recap. KeiiiyaAa" Guldo screeched as everyone except the ginyu force, Frieza and Izuku stood in place not even moving, Izuku walked towards Guldo. The Ginyu Force isn't just about power. 1:42. It consists of five powerful warriors: Recoome, Burter, Jeice, Guldo, and Captain Ginyu, the leader. Prepare to die!" Also Ginyu Force had much better feats then the Spice boys. And Solar Flare to by time for Spirit Bomb. Same difference, the clothes are still way too stretchy for logic. And using previous knowledge of stopping Oozaru's to cut off Vegeta's tail. Ginyu force also have a time manipulator and a body stealer. You do realize great ape is a ten time multipe. Would the Ginyu Force know to try such a thing? The Ginyu Force Vegeta secretly detects and then follows Krillin and Gohan to the secret hideout of the Eldest Namek. Later on when Vegeta returns to the spaceship he confronts and kills them. A move that would have worked on Broly were he there. Gohan is a good example of power>tactics. Also Ginyu Force had much better feats then the Spice boys. Vegeta assumes that Goku and Ginyu are about the same, Vegeta appears to be correct initially. I would say the ginyu force have the speed and numbers and abilities to pull that off. vs. Piccolo "Lord Frieza!" I agree that raw ability and skill outshine tactics in DBZ but that doesn't mean they don't matter. So I think Goku used the same power against the Ginyu Force and Ginyu himself. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 13:27. I’m guessing the Ginyu force know how to deal with Oozaru’s seeing as they’re pretty well versed in Saiyans. "You worthless Namekian!" It is not a good comparison. Ginyu Force can still win even though Vegeta is stronger than them. But i'll add that if vegeta wasn't stupid enough to allow himself to get controlled, goku and vegeta and gohan together would have been enough to take down fat buu at the time of the situation.And vegeta would have had plenty of chances to train, regardless of the gap between them at the moment. Stress: Not strangling the life out of someone when they desperately need it. Gangusbentek. DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE - Ginyu Force intro with Vegeta. "I will avenge all the good men you killed on Namek! So if you remove Ginyu then yes great ape Saiyan saga vegeta could take out the ginyu force. Do they have knowledge of what allows a Saiyan to transform into a Great Ape? Actually, if Raditz were to go Oozaru he'd outclass Captain Ginyu's power level by 30.000. The power gap would only widen if it were Nappa or Vegeta … In the anime, Bulma leaves her position between two large rocks and using her Airbike, travels to a destroyed Namekian village and is later chased by Dinosaurs that Krillin saves her from. @misterguyman: as that said in the anime or manga? @nickthedevil: ginyu defeated goku despite him having more PL, so tactics does work, well at least techniques does. Back for the Dead: Predictably, when Ginyu finally gets to return to a humanoid body, Vegeta slays him ruthlessly in the very same manner he murdered the other members of the Ginyu Force, finally completing the set. They are the secondary antagonists of the Namek Saga, while Frieza's Army serve as the main group of antagonists. The next fighter from the Ginyu Force is the massive Recoome. ... Not that it matters because as I said, this should have been Spriggan 12 vs Ginyu Force if anything. @deathhero61: No, but they did him wonders the entire Saiyan Saga, Freeza Saga, and Buu Saga. Ginyu force also have a time manipulator and a body stealer. "The Dragon Ball Super anime is lowering the IQ of the characters so the DB fan base can relate to them better." vegeta should lose here. It is a good comparison. "I'll handle you myself!" Especially when talking about the Majins. Given Ginyu and Burter's speed, and Guldo's time stop Oozaru would be rendered ineffective against the Ginyu Force as long as they know to cut off their tails. He was last seen during the Great Saiyaman Saga in the anime while still trapped in his frog form. Goku had knocked Burter and Recomme unconscious. MillicentTrent. Not really a strategy. Clearly Goku just blitzed Buu with his higher power level to win the fight. However, the body that gets destroyed isn't Ginyu's - it's Tagoma's, who gets tricked into triggering the Body Swap technique. Dragonball FighterZ Ginyu Sonderkommando Vegeta Sama. Or using Cell's telekinetically controlled Kienzann against him in the same fight. Dragon Ball Xenoverse : Goku Y Vegeta (Saga Namek) VS FUERZA GINYU ! His name is a pun of "butter" (which is indirectly mentioned by Goku). Buu saga? However, the two kids that are with him may be even stronger. Back for the Dead: Predictably, when Ginyu finally gets to return to a humanoid body, Vegeta slays him ruthlessly in the very same manner he murdered the other members of the Ginyu Force, finally completing the set. Way earlier were it not for Cell 's telekinetically controlled Kienzann against him in the Namek Saga too, he. So the DB fan base can relate to them better. did wonders! 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